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| PARI | Wed Jun 1, 2011 8:05 pm Post #1 |
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Was doing some reading yesterday, there are new reasons for failing the mot test in the pipeline, some of which are going to be bad news . 1. towbar electics must work if fitted 2. leak detector used on lpg conversions 3. all doors must open/close (same as taxi test) 4. door hinges,catches and the pillars are now corrosion checked 5. "missing" catalytic converters 6. "inappropriate" brake system modifications 7. any dash warning light on for; airbag, esc,elec power steering,engine management,low tyre pressure, low brake pad,low brake fluid,seat belt pretensioners. 8. power steering fluid level,pipes for security/corrosion 9. "products" that reduce headlamp light output 10. battery security and wiring 11. inner cv boots, split balljoint/trackrod end boots 12 "inappropriate" suspension modifications What is deemed "inappropriate" is not yet stated, but its seems the mot test is to become a strict as the TUV tests in Deutschland. UK is trying to harmonise same standards as United States of Europe, which means more failures and more motorists to put more cash into the leaking economy !!!!!!! |
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| alan | Wed Jun 1, 2011 8:15 pm Post #2 |
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hmmmm interesting
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I thought some of these where already checked 7. any dash warning light on for; airbag, esc,elec power steering,engine management,low tyre pressure, low brake pad,low brake fluid,seat belt pretensioners. 10. battery security and wiring 11. inner cv boots, split balljoint/trackrod end boots At the end of the day as long as you look after your car non of these should be a problem but they will prob put up the price to cover the extra work |
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| PARI | Wed Jun 1, 2011 8:19 pm Post #3 |
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yeah was giving this rubbish plus the LEZ (low emission zone) By my mech who is a friend of the MOT station we use. As of 2012 some of us london sprinter drivers pre "02" will have to pay £100 entry into the M25. This is some real bad news for those trying to make a living in london. I will have to trim my Fleet of sprinters for newer sh!tter ones |
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| kentronix | Wed Jun 1, 2011 8:34 pm Post #4 |
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Damn, probably in trouble with 10 and definitely 12 on both cars. I thought 7 was already in place. What a waste of time removing the abs bulbs
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| gibpetrolhead | Wed Jun 1, 2011 8:54 pm Post #5 |
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Here is an example of why these changes are too strict. My mother in law feels she "must buy a new car because after four years it must be MOT'd and things will go wrong with it" her words.
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| Eoin | Wed Jun 1, 2011 9:16 pm Post #6 |
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10. battery security and wiring is already in place. Faild and MOT on this a couple years ago. |
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| Rich27 | Wed Jun 1, 2011 9:59 pm Post #7 |
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Lets be honest. Most of them are common sense anyway. |
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| kentronix | Wed Jun 1, 2011 10:01 pm Post #8 |
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The problem with 12 is it leaves room for opinion. |
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| Rich27 | Wed Jun 1, 2011 10:02 pm Post #9 |
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Well my MOT tester likes modded Mercs so
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| p1RATE | Wed Jun 1, 2011 10:45 pm Post #10 |
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More than part of things
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I get an advisory for insecure battery as i dont have the plate in. im guessing its a failure now. |
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| jeremy | Thu Jun 2, 2011 8:23 am Post #11 |
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I get an advisory for insecure battery as i dont have the plate in. im guessing its a failure now.[/quote] Battery secure plates are pennies , and take a minute to fit . ( must get my coupe done )Jeremy Edited by jeremy, Thu Jun 2, 2011 8:24 am.
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| shrekky | Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:11 am Post #12 |
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most MOT testers would fail for #3 and 4 anyway, as reasonable access must be had to test all the seat belts,and if a door doesnt open they wont climb all over the interior to test the seat belt where the door is stuck , so will fail it, and door hinges and pillars must be checked anyway especially on cars that have a intergrated chassis, as any door pillars form a part of the chassis, thats also the reason why any repair (welding) must be seam welded to retain the interegrity. #5 is sort in effect as well, if the car was built after 1994 and listed as having a catalytic convertor( petrol cars only,2001 on, all cars) ,it must having one for a MOT,but there were some cars built between 1990-94 that have convertors but it wasnt compulsory,so you could remove them without it being MOT fail as for #7 the only fail at the moment for dashboard lights being on is airbag and ABS #10 and 11 are already in effect #12 i dare say this will be used to cover cars that have been lowered by people cutting suspension springs just like at the moment in force is a "inappropiate exhaust modifications" now some testers see that as "anything not original" will fail, where others say "as long as it passes the emissions and noise tests" then theres nothing wrong with it. IMHO the goverment are trying to force you to keep the car exactly the way it was manufactured Edited by shrekky, Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:17 am.
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| Stempies | Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:26 am Post #13 |
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Oh no, does this include baked bean tins!! Won't be long before offensive colours & blingy wheels will fail as they will be deemed a distraction to other drivers!!
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| alan | Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:16 am Post #14 |
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hmmmm interesting
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but that would mean the end of this ![]() ![]() ok maybe that a good idea lol Edited by alan, Thu Jun 2, 2011 11:16 am.
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| Mork | Thu Jun 2, 2011 12:24 pm Post #15 |
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The difference is, in Germany, they test cars every 2 years, not every year, so have to be more stringent. But it is just an excuse to push the MOT price up and screw motorists, yet again! It's about time motorists, i.e. everyone, went on strike and brought the country to a halt. That would cost a hell of a lot more than a few extra quid on an MOT. |
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| David Powell | Thu Jun 2, 2011 12:59 pm Post #16 |
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MOT's are already at £56, it won't be long before you won't be able to afford the MOT and any mod on your car will be deemed inappropriate |
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| PARI | Thu Jun 2, 2011 1:17 pm Post #17 |
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that is expensive fella, Where do you live? I pay either £30 or £45 both with free retests But the £30 MOT you actually have to pay if it fails The £45 is No pass no fee, exactly as you read you fail you can drive out without paying a penny and you get your red sheet for free. |
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| shrekky | Thu Jun 2, 2011 1:39 pm Post #18 |
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£40-45 for MOT's round here with free re-tests |
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| alan | Thu Jun 2, 2011 1:59 pm Post #19 |
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hmmmm interesting
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got my last one for £25 they were doing a special introductory offer and where told I would be fixing any probs myself and she still passed without even an advisory and a that's a well looked after car don't see many new cars in that nick |
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| David Powell | Thu Jun 2, 2011 4:13 pm Post #20 |
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Just checked Directgov web site and it's actually £54.85 not £56, some garages will do it cheaper, I was getting it for £27 from a garage in Crewe but they have been bought out by Halfords now so don't know if that's still available but last year it was only £41 so they've put it up by £13.85 I don't know how can they justify that increase. Thieving scum! |
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| kentronix | Thu Jun 2, 2011 7:48 pm Post #21 |
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Halfords service centres are doing half price MOT's at the moment. £27.42. |
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| rhysmangatmotorsport | Thu Jun 2, 2011 9:13 pm Post #22 |
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Vosa are a bunch of fookin ass holes!! got nothing better to do, as If the fuel thing aint bad enough.. Did you guys know an MOT station pays just under £20 to vosa for the stamp and paper, the rest is profit to the garage I pay £45 where I go with free retest, My dad goes to his mate, who charges him £35...
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| PARI | Thu Jun 2, 2011 9:21 pm Post #23 |
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its true about prices, as i had a MOT station near my house that offered MOT's for £9.99 I never used them. cant see them being much cop. I prefer to use people I know, they will tell me as it is and give good advice on getting things fixed. |
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| rhysmangatmotorsport | Thu Jun 2, 2011 9:31 pm Post #24 |
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Ive seen ones like these before, they will deffo fail your car, and you will have to pay for retest.... |
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| kentronix | Thu Jun 2, 2011 10:42 pm Post #25 |
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I think £25 labour for about half hours work isnt too bad to be honest. I mean, I do thing garages over charge for labour but given they do, £25 labour for an mot doesnt seem that bad. Obviously, I pay london labour rates though so I may be more used to getting shafted. |
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| stwat | Fri Jun 3, 2011 5:02 pm Post #26 |
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Info gathered from another forum. Know Your Legislation I am creating this post not for scaremongering, but to educate on current and proposed legislation with regards to modified vehicles. Most of this legislation has been in place for years, but many people either have never heard of it or have no understanding of it. Recently the organisations involved in policing these regulations have begun to enforce them more thoroughly. Forthcoming MOT regulations First the good news. After consultation with a number of agencies and organisations the proposed changes to the MOT system to be implemented in January 2012 have been amended. Therefore: • There will NOT be a total ban on the use/sale of aftermarket HID kits, which was a major part of the proposal. The current MOT rules state High Intensity Discharge (HID) and LED dipped beam headlamps (whether original fitment or after-market) must be fitted with a headlamp washing system (a wiper is not required) and be self levelling. This may be achieved by the use of either headlamp or suspension levelling systems. However, some high performance vehicles fitted with HID headlamps that have limited luggage space and stiff suspension do not require a self-levelling system. Reason for failure: A mandatory headlamp levelling or cleaning device missing, inoperative or otherwise obviously defective • There will not be a ban on “illegal” engine tuning. Frankly there was no way a visual inspection could identify an aftermarket chip or re-map anyway, and this proposal was met with universal contempt by MOT testers. The only reference in the new manual to this is that modified cars must meet the correct emissions level for the year of engine. Changes to the MOT that could affect lowered cars These are the changes that have been implemented. • Check that there is enough clearance of the axle or suspension with the bump stop or chassis • Check that there is sufficient clearance from body to wheels Reason for failure: Inadequate Clearance of the axle or suspension with the bump stop or chassis. Inadequate clearance between body and wheels. Deliberate modification which significantly reduces the original strength, excessive corrosion, severe distortion, a fracture or an inadequate repair of a load bearing member or its supporting structure or supporting panelling within 30cm of any sub-frame, spring or a suspension component mounting, that is, within a ‘prescribed area The key word in the first definitions is ‘inadequate’. This leaves it to the discretion of the MOT tester on what classes as inadequate. It’s not a massive problem, as I’d imagine most lowered car owners will have a friendly MOT tester that they use anyway. If not it might be time to find one. The 2nd part is interesting, for instance a chassis C notch could be seen as reducing the strength of the supporting structure for the front subframe. That’s about all we can find that affects modified cars in the new manual, so much better than first thought. So, aftermarket HID's are not illegal or an MOT fail if they are fitted with headlamp washers and levelling devices, which many of our cars have. |
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| inlinesix | Sun Jun 5, 2011 8:47 pm Post #27 |
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That's what I wouls have thought too......... |
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