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| jason3249 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:36 pm Post #1 |
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hi peope this car is pissing me of got new problem wife took the car out and now the clutch pedal stays on the floor how come im getting all this problems the car has had 2 owners from new 2nd son in law full service history 98k on clocks its like new mint whats going on
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| jason3249 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:50 pm Post #2 |
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wife said theres hydraulic fluid under the car on the floor shes getting the breakdown didnt have no problems with my old 190 afew years back not even that long ago Edited by jason3249, Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:52 pm.
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| eagle3 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:51 pm Post #3 |
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Either it's a problem with the hydraulic command(master or slave cylinder or maybe just the system needs bleeding) or you need a new clutch kit(clutch plate diaphragm). |
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| eagle3 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:52 pm Post #4 |
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Sounds like the slave cylinder's dead. Not as bad as a dead clutch. |
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| jason3249 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:54 pm Post #5 |
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is it a hard job |
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| eagle3 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 5:58 pm Post #6 |
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I'm not sure I've never done it on a 190. Technically not too complicated as long as you can get to it reasonably easily. Sorry mine's an auto. |
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| stwat | Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:05 pm Post #7 |
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You won't know what it is until you find where the leak is coming from. |
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| jason3249 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:16 pm Post #8 |
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are let you all know if i can see by the time she gets back most porb be dark |
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| eagle3 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:20 pm Post #9 |
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How's she getting back? 1st gear all the way? |
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| jason3249 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:23 pm Post #10 |
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breakdown dont go in gear :-) |
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| eagle3 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:34 pm Post #11 |
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Might be worth taking it straight to the garage to get fixed. If it's purely hydraulic it's not likely to cost loads. At least it didn't happen in France. |
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| jason3249 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:40 pm Post #12 |
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in deed wife said on skype as my phone is in the car the breakdown said its the slave cylinder is that hard any one know is it hard to bleed it
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| jason3249 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:44 pm Post #13 |
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well he thinks |
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| Gaz2N | Thu Jul 10, 2014 6:45 pm Post #14 |
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Hate to play devils advocate but I've often said that low mileage cars can be problematic. 98k in 20+ years is not enough to keep everything running nicely. I've ended up replacing almost every rubber part on my low miler. I'd never have another low mileage car. Gary |
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| jason3249 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:04 pm Post #15 |
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its getting there just scrap it lol hes new saying its most prob clutch master cyinder so dont no till it gets here shes on way |
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| eagle3 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:27 pm Post #16 |
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If the clutch hydraulic circuit is not regularly bled the life will shorten, but not completely surprising parts fail on a 20 year old car. As stu says you need to trace the leak and fix it. When there's no more fluid in the circuit it's not going to work. Edited by eagle3, Thu Jul 10, 2014 7:27 pm.
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| jason3249 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:23 pm Post #17 |
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had a look cant find the leak filled it back up and its going agen all i can find is theres fluid on the bottom of the gearbox apart from that cant find a leak heard a noise splurting only once stuck now
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| eagle3 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 8:27 pm Post #18 |
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I think it's probably the slave cylinder that's sprung a leak. I wouldn't go too far in it as it is. You'll be calling the truck out again..
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| jason3249 | Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:10 pm Post #19 |
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I think it is The inside of the foot well is dry and its only wey on the bottom of the gearbox So its wet at the front and now at the back its not ending
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| stwat | Thu Jul 10, 2014 10:16 pm Post #20 |
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Yes that certainly sounds like the slave then as eagle said. apparently it can be a pain in the arse to bleed. Was the car stood unused for a lengthy amount of time before you bought it? |
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| Deleted User | Thu Jul 10, 2014 11:09 pm Post #21 |
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Hi Jason, Don't get bent out of shape; it will be fine. Inconvenient no doubt. If there is fluid leaking, from the clutch assy, and the clutch is not working, it can only be three things. The clutch master cylinder, clutch slave cylinder, or the hose connecting them. I must mention that the seals and hoses can be damaged by the wrong brake fluid; I learned this the hard way. To me "the wrong brake fluid" is anything other than authentic MB fluid, in an MB bottle. I say this because the brand fluid I was using allegedly met the DOT spec., and still made the seals gummy and soft. Regardless, I replaced everything for under $400 at the Dealer. Sorry for you problem; it's not your fault. |
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| jason3249 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:37 am Post #22 |
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yer its been sat for 10 years only moved for a mot once a year pipes are dry the gearbox tunnel is dry so is the inside of the car
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| eagle3 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:51 am Post #23 |
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You're not making a lot of sense Jason.. |
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| eagle3 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:57 am Post #24 |
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This is what you said when you bought the car
Was the car serviced at all while it was standing for 10 years? Edited by eagle3, Fri Jul 11, 2014 9:58 am.
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| eagle3 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:21 am Post #25 |
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First you say
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Which is it? |
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| jason3249 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:10 am Post #26 |
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It has full service history As said it only moved once a year for mot and service then sat same agen the year after Done that for 10 years Right the inside of the foot well is dry The gearbox tunnel is dry The only bit what's wet is the bottom of the gearbox So its got to be the slave cylinder As fluid has run out of it down the gearbox and on the floor Has to be that as evey thing else is dry even the pipes are
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| eagle3 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 11:24 am Post #27 |
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In that case I would just get a new slave cylinder and change it. They don't cost a fortune. I don't think it's worth trying to repair the old one unless you're on the bones of your arse.. Link to models for reference (sorry it's in french) http://www.oscaro.com/recepteur-d-embrayage-mercedes-benz-190-201-1-8-i-109cv-620-8079-2713-gt?searchType=standard |
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| jason3249 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 12:58 pm Post #28 |
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40 from gsf till the next problem
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| stwat | Fri Jul 11, 2014 4:01 pm Post #29 |
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If you aint bought it yet, it's cheaper from CP4L http://www.carparts4less.co.uk/hydraulic-clutches |
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| jason3249 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:28 pm Post #30 |
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Thanks bud Cant work out where the fluid can leak out on it been looking at the pic Wont it just leak in to the gearbox
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| Daliscar | Fri Jul 11, 2014 5:59 pm Post #31 |
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Listen to this man.He speaketh mucho sense................ |
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| jason3249 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:15 pm Post #32 |
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i know what it is as said daliscar anyway how can a slave cylinde leak its all metal with a pipe going in to it and pipe isnt leaking by the way its all dry apart from the bottom of the gearbox the inside of the car is dry put fresh fluid in it and it work agen so got to be the slave cylinde
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| eagle3 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 6:38 pm Post #33 |
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It's the seal on the piston, and possibly a corroded cylinder. The piston pushes the lever which in turn pushes the thrust bearing against the clutch plate, which in turn pulls the clutch disc off the engine flywheel so you can change gear. |
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| jason3249 | Fri Jul 11, 2014 7:03 pm Post #34 |
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got you iv sorted the light out its of now cleened the low water switch in the header tank and its all working thats one problem down any way back to the other problems the last time the car was started was yesterday went down to it undone the water cap and loads of pressure come out so its holding pressure so why dont the heating work i was told its low pressure but its holding pressure so the matrix must be blocked
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| Deleted User | Fri Jul 11, 2014 10:48 pm Post #35 |
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Heater matrix blocked... Not necessarily. The heater control uses intake vacuum to operate the coolant valves and air shutters. SO you have to start from the control, check vacuum, make sure the actuator is not rusted stiff, etc. If you keep the coolant rich/thick, the heater core and radiator can last the life of the car; what condition is your coolant? Any car you get is going to need a number of things, but once you get it caught-up, things WILL be better. And you know your mates in here will help you. ![]() Try paying $65k for a NEW car, and the stinking thing has electronics alarms every single weekend, until you get sick and dump it onto the used car market. This is exactly what happened; the only decent car I have right now is my 190, and it's 25 years old. |
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| jason3249 | Sat Jul 12, 2014 3:16 am Post #36 |
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i said about the vacum but dont know where to start with that if it helps i have no vacum going to the part in the pic its got new coolant
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| Will | Sat Jul 12, 2014 5:01 am Post #37 |
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I would be checking your head gasket. Brown coolant and a stuck/sludged level sensor in the expansion tank, combined with your other problems (pressurised when cold, irregular coolant circulation/temp issues etc) all point towards an issue like this. Maybe that's what has burst the rad too. You need to sort it ASAP before the you ruin the head if that is what is wrong. It's a very common issue on your model (1.8 litre M102) On the positive side, a new gasket set is around £30 and you should see change from £100 with all the other bits if you can DIY - unless the head is corroded badly. |
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| eagle3 | Sat Jul 12, 2014 8:43 am Post #38 |
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You've gone off topic there. Shame. |
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| jason3249 | Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:57 am Post #39 |
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it wasnt sludge it was metal like when you cut some think and you get the metal dust |
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| Will | Sat Jul 12, 2014 9:58 am Post #40 |
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Someone's put K-seal crap in there. Coppery coloured? |
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