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Painting a 16v bodykit; Clarification on paint finish please
Topic Started: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:54 pm (460 Views)
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Am I right in thinking that 16v cars rolled out of the factory with the plastic bodykit pieces painted in the satin finish as opposed to the metallic paint on the metalwork? Meaning in practice, I should be painting the bootlid spoiler and C-pillar vents in metallic and everything wheelarch extensions and below in the satin..

Many thanks,

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That is correct, sir :)
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Excellent Stu, thank you. It happens tomorrow.
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Wasent both option?
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I'd go for a gloss finish, that colour really pops in the sun with HS lacquers
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nsx_j
Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:54 pm
Am I right in thinking that 16v cars rolled out of the factory with the plastic bodykit pieces painted in the satin finish as opposed to the metallic paint on the metalwork? Meaning in practice, I should be painting the bootlid spoiler and C-pillar vents in metallic and everything wheelarch extensions and below in the satin..

Many thanks,

James

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Hope itís not too late James but it reads as though youíre painting the wheel arch trims in satin, that is not correct. They are in body finish - ie gloss lacquer/clear coat.
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Thanks Will. It may not be too late after all! I am confused now - is it better to do the lot in gloss (especially if it was a factory option)? Also, is the underside of the bonnet red or the Galinite Grey of the boot lid underside?

Many thanks!

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Fri Dec 1, 2017 11:57 am
Thanks Will. It may not be too late after all! I am confused now - is it better to do the lot in gloss (especially if it was a factory option)? Also, is the underside of the bonnet red or the Galinite Grey of the boot lid underside?

Many thanks!

James
No 16vs came with gloss finish on the Ďbodykití, they all have a satin clearcoat. But the wheel arch mouldings are 100% gloss finish the same as the wings theyíre attached to :)

Iím fairly sure the bonnet is body coloured inside and out - although the majority will be covered with the insulation pad of course.

Donít forget the lower lip on the bumpers is finished in a satin black or dark grey IIRC.
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Fri Dec 1, 2017 11:57 am
Thanks Will. It may not be too late after all! I am confused now - is it better to do the lot in gloss (especially if it was a factory option)? Also, is the underside of the bonnet red or the Galinite Grey of the boot lid underside?

Many thanks!

James

As Will says, the underside of the bonnet is painted body colour, except for the very bottom section (when viewed with it in the vertical position) which is the same grey as the underside of the boot lid.

I can post a picture when I get home if it would help.


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Underside of bonnet is body colour. Lower portion of skirts are tiefdunkelgrau DB 7167
Codes for matt or satin paints used for lower cladding are usually a 4 figure number.

Eg smoke silver is 702
Smoke silver for sacco 7702

Don't know the number for almandine satin though
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Done mine in all gloss looks nicer and if I ever sell it it's easily sprayed with satin laquer.
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Inside of bonnet is body colour but from memory the
Lower part where the nozzles are ect is the same colour
As the boot (grey)
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Looking forward to seeing this done James! Nick is right with the grey parts of the boot lid & lower part of the bonnet inside.
Edited by rhysmangatmotorsport, Mon Dec 4, 2017 10:28 am.
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Mon Dec 4, 2017 8:15 am
Looking forward to seeing this done James!
All in good time RhysRobbie but it now has the momentum and no turning back!
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Looking forward to seeing this done James!
All in good time RhysRobbie but it now has the momentum and no turning back!
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So it'll be ready for the gtg next year then ;) eatpopcorn
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Looking forward to seeing this done James!
All in good time RhysRobbie but it now has the momentum and no turning back!
rockon

So it'll be ready for the gtg next year then ;) eatpopcorn
All being well. Though I would do well not to get myself parked up next to Bisonhead's motor this time ;)
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Bisonhead...... quiet for a while?
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James I'll have a word with the organisers :lol:

Daliscar Martin works abroad so that's probably why you've not heard from him on here in a while
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James I'll have a word with the organisers :lol:

Daliscar Martin works abroad so that's probably why you've not heard from him on here in a while
Yes I know, Iím sure heís posted on here from abroad though.
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James I'll have a word with the organisers :lol:

Daliscar Martin works abroad so that's probably why you've not heard from him on here in a while
Yes I know, Iím sure heís posted on here from abroad though.
He piped up the other day I think..
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Some photos of recent progress..

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I think I will be stealthifying the exhaust a little.

Anyway, lacquer and polish over the next few days and paint for the bodykit. Navarra Red looks pretty dark in the tin! Are you all sure??
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Sat Dec 9, 2017 4:09 pm

Anyway, lacquer and polish over the next few days and paint for the bodykit. Navarra Red looks pretty dark in the tin! Are you all sure??
Navarra?? On the 16v the base colour for the body kit should be the same as the body, Almandine in this case. A satin clearcoat is then applied.

I painted these with the same basecoat that I will paint the shell with (when I finally get there!), and finished with a satin clearcoat that my paint shop made up for me. (What looks like a poor finish on the dark gray lower is just masking glue)

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Anyway, lacquer and polish over the next few days and paint for the bodykit. Navarra Red looks pretty dark in the tin! Are you all sure??
Navarra?? On the 16v the base colour for the body kit should be the same as the body, Almandine in this case. A satin clearcoat is then applied.

I painted these with the same basecoat that I will paint the shell with (when I finally get there!), and finished with a satin clearcoat that my paint shop made up for me. (What looks like a poor finish on the dark gray lower is just masking glue)

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Thanks Chris. That does make more sense and concurs with my Smoke Silver car's appearance. Thankfully it is not too late as the kit hasn't been painted yet. Your bumpers look very good there..
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So I have just found a couple of photos of a non-16v Almandine car and I assume that the Sacco panels here ARE painted the darker Navarra Red (code 3521) but that is NOT what should be done with my Cosworth bodykit..?

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So I have just found a couple of photos of a non-16v Almandine car and I assume that the Sacco panels here ARE painted the darker Navarra Red (code 3521) but that is NOT what should be done with my Cosworth bodykit..?

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There seems to be a little anxiety developing here........
Are you after 100% originality or just wanting to be happy with the finished product ?
The work so far looks great, itís your car it doesnít have to be what others may expect it to be!
The dark red does look good. A contrast in colour OR finish is going to point out an addition.
I.E. Sacco panels or body kit.
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Definitely almandine like the rest of the car!

I've actually had mine done very recently. Your next option is how satin the finish should be which is what I struggled with, the bodyshop eventually managed to get it right.
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OCD but those headlamp wiper arms are bugging me (broken/missing covers on the spindles) - and the bonnet star looks a bit limp! :o

Wing repeaters also look like theyíre on the wrong way round and who puts Avons on a 16v these days? :D
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So I have just found a couple of photos of a non-16v Almandine car and I assume that the Sacco panels here ARE painted the darker Navarra Red (code 3521) but that is NOT what should be done with my Cosworth bodykit..?

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There seems to be a little anxiety developing here........
Are you after 100% originality or just wanting to be happy with the finished product ?
The work so far looks great, itís your car it doesnít have to be what others may expect it to be!
The dark red does look good. A contrast in colour OR finish is going to point out an addition.
I.E. Sacco panels or body kit.
Don't worry Daliscar - I am keeping my cool B) . At this point I may as well go for 100% originality and when I dig out the VIN plate then the EPC will tell me which paints were involved in the build of the car. I had forgotten that one can look that info up.

@Haris - will look forward to seeing your car with some fresh paint. I take it you are keeping it then?

@Will - I couldn't agree more. I always look at the headlamp wipers on even high-end photo shoots and they are usually a shambles. Mind you, with the price of the blades at the dealer.. :rolleyes:
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OCD but those headlamp wiper arms are bugging me (broken/missing covers on the spindles) - and the bonnet star looks a bit limp! :o

Wing repeaters also look like theyíre on the wrong way round and who puts Avons on a 16v these days? :D
Not OCD at all! The star and wipers annoyed me too.

Now that you've pointed out the wing repeaters out that's annoying me even more :lol:

Not keeping it much longer it still needs to go unfortunately :-/ I keep saying I'm going to put it up for sale... I've probably said that for almost a year!
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